Episode 12

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Published on:

10th Apr 2023

DEPECHE MODE CONCERT REVIEW! SAN JOSE 2023 MEMENTO MORI, POST-CONCERT DEPRESSION

Women of Rock Concert Special - hosts Kimberly Gunn and Tammy Holzer discuss Tammy's experience attending the Depeche Mode show in San Jose on March 25, 2023; concert etiquette, and post-concert and post-tour depression.

Depeche Mode - Walking In My Shoes ft. BBC Concert Orchestra (Radio 2 Piano Room)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lok52VfIE_c


Depeche Mode - Ghosts Again ft. BBC Concert Orchestra (Radio 2 Piano Room)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD9e_nZ4y_c


Post-Concert Depression (Article)

https://www.choosingtherapy.com/post-concert-depression/


#depechemode #mementomori

Transcript
Kimberly:

Greetings, and welcome to this latest edition of The Women of Rock.

Kimberly:

I'm one of your hosts, Kimberly.

Kimberly:

Hi, I'm Tammy.

Kimberly:

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Now I'm gonna turn it over to my girl, Tammy, who has some on the ground

Kimberly:

reporting from a huge world tour.

Kimberly:

Tammy, what's going on?

Tammy:

Okay, so today's a special edition.

Tammy:

We're gonna devote today's episode to Depeche Mode, and I recently saw Depeche

Tammy:

Mode, their second concert in San Jose for this new tour, the Momentum MO tour.

Tammy:

And just wanted to give my overall, experience and impressions and and

Tammy:

recap of how fabulous it was really.

Kimberly:

Could we are so excited to hear, because I've been seeing in the news.

Kimberly:

I know a bunch.

Kimberly:

Everyone's been checking it out.

Kimberly:

I've seen, really positive reviews.

Kimberly:

So, you know, before we launch into the show, can you just give us a wrap up of

Kimberly:

how you got that ticket, because I know it was sort of like, you know, Charlie

Kimberly:

from Willy Wonka, how you got that golden ticket and got that made it in there.

Kimberly:

So how'd you get that

Tammy:

ticket?

Tammy:

Um, well first of all, let me say, you can probably tell by my voice that I

Tammy:

am sick and unfortunately, I believe I did get sick from going to the event.

Tammy:

It was an indoor, concert.

Tammy:

It's not covid, but it's some other, or combination of other, viruses that pretty

Tammy:

much took me down for like nine days.

Tammy:

there's that, still recover.

Tammy:

My ear is completely, plugged and like pretty much swollen this half of

Tammy:

my face, but still totally worth it.

Tammy:

I did not regret going.

Tammy:

It was a, amazing experience.

Tammy:

So anyway, that being said, the, I got the ticket through Ticketmaster.

Tammy:

It.

Tammy:

About six months ago, I think.

Tammy:

I think, well, last October, so six months ago, and it was the sign

Tammy:

up for the verified fan through Ticketmaster, and I believe I got a link.

Tammy:

to, I don't remember for that particular one, you didn't have to

Tammy:

sign up for a particular show, you just had to have a link and all the

Tammy:

shows went on sale at the same time.

Tammy:

But there were only like, maybe six shows in North America and Depeche

Tammy:

Mode has not toured in five years.

Tammy:

I think typically they tour about every four years is their cycle.

Tammy:

And they recently lost, Fletcher, Andrew Fletcher from the band.

Tammy:

So, This might be the last time they tour a Actually, we say that every time,

Tammy:

this might be the last time they tour.

Tammy:

This isn't, but you never know it could be.

Tammy:

And the fact that they were only doing a handful of shows in North America and then

Tammy:

going overseas, it was like, whoa, there's gonna be a major scramble for tickets.

Tammy:

So really, I got the code.

Tammy:

I was on my phone, my laptop.

Tammy:

Like, you know, at the, at the time it was released and I was trying for LA

Tammy:

and, San Jose and LA was like, forget it.

Tammy:

it was just in line forever and the first thing that I could get on was San Jose.

Tammy:

So I just grabbed it and I grabbed a ticket.

Tammy:

My, the ticket itself ended up being, I was in the 100 level.

Tammy:

I had decent seats.

Tammy:

I chose seats that were facing the band, not right next to the band because

Tammy:

I had ha I had been to a concert, a show for Johnny Mar in another city,

Tammy:

and it was an arena type setting.

Tammy:

And I was, I chose a seat, like closer to the band, but I was

Tammy:

sitting sideways and it sucked because it was not a great ar arena.

Tammy:

And everyone was like smushed together and no one was standing.

Tammy:

So I'm like squished in between people and look and having to look over to the right.

Tammy:

I'm like, I'm not doing that again.

Tammy:

I'm gonna, I'm goodness.

Tammy:

and that being said, the SAP center, I don't know if it's called

Tammy:

SAP or S SAP Center or whatever in San Jose is a great venue.

Tammy:

Oh, awesome.

Tammy:

There is amazing.

Tammy:

And I was kicking myself.

Tammy:

Damnit, I should've got a seat, but I didn't know I never been there.

Tammy:

Could've got a seat closer.

Tammy:

it would've been, I would've been, the, the the views were great.

Tammy:

I didn't feel that far away, but I just realized like,

Tammy:

the, now this is a good arena.

Tammy:

there's not a bad seat here, Anyway, so when I got the tickets, it was just like,

Tammy:

I'm going, and I think they were out the door with ticket master fees and all that.

Tammy:

I think around $200.

Tammy:

Wow.

Tammy:

Okay.

Tammy:

Wanted to get.

Tammy:

I really ideally wanna be on the floor.

Tammy:

as we've talked about on this channel many times, floor seats were going for $3,000.

Tammy:

By the way, who is on the floor?

Tammy:

Did those people pay $3,000?

Tammy:

Did they wait?

Tammy:

Like it's sold out really fast?

Tammy:

I don't know.

Tammy:

it'd be interesting to see to know.

Tammy:

People paid.

Kimberly:

Not, but not too bad.

Kimberly:

it wasn't a mortgage payment.

Tammy:

It wasn't a mortgage payment.

Tammy:

No.

Tammy:

Or a trip to Europe.

Tammy:

And that was presale, A trip to that was presale and I, and then I went on the

Tammy:

day that they went on sale, and it was like a hundred dollars more for my seat.

Tammy:

Oh, wow.

Tammy:

Okay.

Tammy:

Like the area instantly.

Tammy:

and then it sold out really

Kimberly:

quick.

Kimberly:

Yeah, so you got, once you got one and got one, because we've been talking

Kimberly:

about this for a couple months.

Tammy:

I, yeah, I've been looking forward to this for months and, so

Tammy:

Sacramento was their first show on March 23rd, and then the one I went to

Tammy:

was their second show on March 25th.

Tammy:

And it was just electric.

Tammy:

it.

Tammy:

Everyone there, 19,000 people, everyone there was so happy and so excited.

Tammy:

I've never seen a Depeche mode like, okay, first of all, let me set the

Tammy:

stage for a Depeche Mode concert.

Tammy:

If you've never been to a Depeche Mode concert, typically, Depeche

Tammy:

Mode fans are a bit obsessive with the band myself for sure.

Tammy:

and so it just, they have.

Tammy:

And heavy themes around life and death.

Tammy:

Not really life, more like death, um, you know, love, sex and religion.

Tammy:

And so this, so typically when I go to a Depeche Mode concert, it's

Tammy:

uplifting for sure, but it's, I always have an emotional hangover afterward

Tammy:

cuz it's so just deep and connecting.

Tammy:

So this was a little different because.

Tammy:

People didn't go in expecting that deep brooding experience.

Tammy:

I guess Was the vibe.

Tammy:

It was more like, we are so fucking happy to be here.

Tammy:

Oh, everybody, people were so nice.

Tammy:

I, okay.

Tammy:

And so when I got there, again, 19,000 people.

Tammy:

Like me, similar in age, all wearing black, all dressed for

Tammy:

the show, all just psyched.

Tammy:

You.

Tammy:

Okay, you gotta show your t-shirt, Jenna.

Tammy:

Just Yes.

Tammy:

this is what I was getting to, so I should, so here my sweatshirt

Tammy:

of the band and, and then it has the tour dates on the back.

Tammy:

But I, I noticed this really long line.

Tammy:

Up the stairs and around, and I'm like, what is that?

Tammy:

Is that like for the bar?

Tammy:

Excuse me?

Tammy:

What is she staying in line for?

Tammy:

Are you

Kimberly:

trying to get a drink?

Tammy:

It was the merch line.

Tammy:

Oh, really?

Tammy:

And it was two lines going up the stairs around.

Tammy:

So I'm like, Damn let me get a beer and then stand in the merch wine.

Tammy:

Well, that's exactly what I did got, like the, they sold

Tammy:

the big can of beer, whatever.

Tammy:

I'm like, okay, this'll last for a while.

Tammy:

This will last for this line.

Tammy:

I was in that line for an hour and I missed completely.

Tammy:

Oh.

Tammy:

I'm like, I'm committed now.

Tammy:

I'm in line.

Tammy:

I'm not gonna get outta line.

Tammy:

And I can't wear these online.

Tammy:

online.

Tammy:

It's at the concert only.

Tammy:

So I'm like, So by the time I got to the front of the line and drank that big beer,

Tammy:

I was like, okay, I'll take that and that.

Tammy:

So I spent way more than I anticipated, and the prices were,

Tammy:

I gotta say outrageous, like holy cow, nothing was less than $50.

Tammy:

This sweatshirt was a hundred dollars.

Tammy:

Wow.

Tammy:

And I bought a long sleeve shirt on top of it that was like, $75.

Tammy:

that was a little bit of a hangover the next day too, of damn, how

Tammy:

much did I just spend on merch?

Tammy:

That wasn't a drop on this show, but, but I got caught up in the moment and

Tammy:

there was just this feeling of I don't know when we're gonna see him again.

Tammy:

and, Everybody in line was super nice, like just chit chatting, like

Tammy:

the excitement was just palpable.

Tammy:

Like in the lobby, in the venue, and even the first couple of songs, the whole

Tammy:

thing, people were just, Going crazy.

Tammy:

I've never seen a Depeche Mode concert.

Tammy:

Like I think the band were blown away too.

Tammy:

They were just holy cow.

Tammy:

And I think there was so much compassion for, and sadness in a way,

Tammy:

or celebration of the last two members.

Tammy:

And that flex was no longer on the stage and the way the band

Tammy:

was configured was different.

Tammy:

they've got two band members that have been longtime

Tammy:

touring members with them too.

Tammy:

drummer and, bass player.

Tammy:

but it was just like, you know, and then there were two.

Tammy:

it was just weird.

Kimberly:

yeah.

Kimberly:

And if you could remind our listeners, fle, he passed away, was it last year?

Tammy:

He pa he passed away, don't remember, I could Google the exact

Tammy:

date, but it was last year and it was during the process of them making

Tammy:

their new album called Memento Mok.

Tammy:

And Memento Mok literally means, remember, you must die.

Tammy:

And so it's just a, again, full on with the Depeche Mode theme, but the fact

Tammy:

that they started writing it before this happened, Was a, it was a little weird.

Tammy:

And also that it's like where the they are as humans, each album that they've done.

Tammy:

And every time I've seen them on tour, which, has been quite a number

Tammy:

of times since 2005 or 2006 was the first time I've saw 'em, I never

Tammy:

saw 'em in the eighties or anything.

Tammy:

I've only seen them, in.

Tammy:

In this, century, but, it's always been, there's a dynamic between Dave

Tammy:

Gahan and Martin Gore and that's played out within the band over the years.

Tammy:

And, I've watched them mature and mature in age.

Tammy:

so it just seems like Memento Mori is a reflection of where they are now,

Tammy:

as humans just facing, end of life.

Tammy:

not end of life right now, but the last chapters of life and just

Tammy:

remembering that we're all gonna die.

Tammy:

So em embracing life.

Tammy:

So it sounds dark, but it's really hopeful.

Kimberly:

And that's not easy to, it's not easy to pull that

Kimberly:

off, to, to navigate that.

Tammy:

Well, the band, the themes of the band for anybody who doesn't.

Tammy:

like I said, the themes of the band are, deaf, religion, and sex.

Tammy:

All those are the themes they explore.

Tammy:

But it's also, but again, it's also uplifting

Kimberly:

Yeah, yeah.

Kimberly:

Would you say that this, is it Memento Mok?

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Would you say that that's like a departure from their traditional

Kimberly:

sound, or is it in line?

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Okay.

Tammy:

Um, and here's one thing I wanna say, and, wanna talk a little bit about

Tammy:

the concert itself and the songs and stuff, but I did notice people around.

Tammy:

So there's the eighties Depeche mode.

Tammy:

Like people are people and everything counts and, just can't get enough.

Tammy:

So if you're an eighties fan of Depeche Mode and you're coming to

Tammy:

the concert to hear, I just can't get enough, you're gonna be really

Tammy:

disappointed because it's not.

Tammy:

They've grown past that.

Tammy:

It's been 40,

Kimberly:

40 I was in high school, isn't it that stuff, And

Tammy:

they, and they've continued, they haven't stopped as a band.

Tammy:

They have continued recording and touring and evolving all this time.

Tammy:

It never stopped.

Tammy:

So I did see a few people in front of me that I think we're thinking,

Tammy:

I'm gonna go see Depeche Mode.

Tammy:

Remember them from the eighties, if that's what you're thinking.

Tammy:

you might be disappointed because they have really grown and changed since then.

Tammy:

That being said, I love their music.

Tammy:

I love everything that they've done after the eighties.

Tammy:

I like the, I lo there's a few things from the eighties that I,

Tammy:

eighties and nineties that I love, personal Jesus, there are more, but

Tammy:

now they closed with those songs.

Tammy:

Typically they closed with, usually goodnight or usually, never let me down.

Tammy:

But this time they closed with personal Jesus, which was really interesting.

Tammy:

And they did do some rearranging of some of the songs too.

Tammy:

So it's a walk through their music.

Tammy:

Pretty, I would say from, they picked a few songs, I think from

Tammy:

each era, but there's not a lot from the eighties and there's some songs

Tammy:

that I love that they didn't play.

Tammy:

And I think, and I've seen some online posts, like people are I don't know

Tammy:

about the set list, but doesn't matter.

Tammy:

We love Depeche Mode, but again, we're going, if you're going.

Tammy:

I would recommend being a hardcore Depeche Mode fan.

Tammy:

If you are, it's fricking amazing.

Tammy:

If you're going there to expect eighties Depeche mode,

Tammy:

you're gonna be disappointed.

Kimberly:

which is so interesting though, because I was able to, I

Kimberly:

was looking at the set list and I watched the, is it Ghost Stories?

Kimberly:

Is that the name of the song Ghost Again, ghost.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

It's a really interesting song and really interesting video.

Kimberly:

very, evocative maybe is the word.

Kimberly:

And Oh yeah.

Kimberly:

For me, because I'm not, I really like De Pema.

Kimberly:

I'm not a fan like you have been, but since I've known you,

Kimberly:

we've been talking about it.

Kimberly:

I've, I'm like really into their music and exploring more about it.

Kimberly:

And I think this tour and this latest, release, I think it really shows

Kimberly:

their depth and their, variety and their talent, to be honest with you.

Kimberly:

Yes.

Tammy:

Thank you.

Tammy:

that's depth.

Tammy:

If there's one word to describe the band, it's depth and talent.

Tammy:

Amazing talent.

Tammy:

Amazing

Kimberly:

talent.

Kimberly:

I really didn't know.

Kimberly:

I'm, my experiences with them were from, the eighties people

Kimberly:

are people, that whole set

Tammy:

song and there, their music is great, but there's just been

Tammy:

a whole evolution since then.

Tammy:

And it's interesting, one of.

Tammy:

They, they opened with a few songs.

Tammy:

I'm just looking at the set list.

Tammy:

they opened it with a few songs from the new album and the third song

Tammy:

they played is Walking in My Shoes.

Tammy:

That's from the nineties, and that's one of those songs that I've always loved, but

Tammy:

for some reason it has evolved over time and I like it even more now than I did.

Tammy:

When it first came out, and I just read something about that, that the band said

Tammy:

the same thing, like something about that song has continued to evolve and

Tammy:

that's why they put it on the set list.

Tammy:

And they just did a recording with the bbc, through the BBC network.

Tammy:

And they recorded that song and ghost again, with an orchestra.

Tammy:

I'm not sure if they did a full concert with the orchestra, if it was just

Tammy:

those tho they posted on YouTube, those two songs, and they're amazing.

Tammy:

Oh, wow.

Tammy:

So we'll link those, down below, so you can take a look at those.

Tammy:

But, it's great.

Tammy:

They, they did every, everything Counts.

Tammy:

that's a, popular eighties song.

Tammy:

Some of the newer songs that I really.

Tammy:

Uh, they performed, but it seemed that they did a different

Tammy:

arrangement, which was interesting.

Tammy:

So, um, precious is a song from, I believe it's playing the Angel, from 2006 2007.

Tammy:

which was good.

Tammy:

Little bit different, arrangement.

Tammy:

a couple songs that are more recent to.

Tammy:

Oh, a paint that I'm used to.

Tammy:

I think that was also from Playing the Angel, which I really great.

Tammy:

Great song.

Tammy:

wrong.

Tammy:

That's one of, I think that's from, is that from Delta?

Tammy:

Delta Spirit.

Tammy:

Great song.

Tammy:

But again, different arrangement.

Tammy:

John, the Revelator great song, little bit different arrangement.

Tammy:

So you gotta really like, know a lot of these records from new

Tammy:

to appreciate these songs and.

Tammy:

So I have to say like overall it was, I was just so happy to see him on stage

Tammy:

and like I knew every single song.

Tammy:

I didn't know all of the new songs, but I knew every single song and,

Tammy:

okay, so the thing about standing up at concerts, this is such a pet peeve.

Tammy:

I think I've talked about this a few times, but.

Tammy:

There have been times where I've been in front row of a concert,

Tammy:

but it was like I, was, heart.

Tammy:

And sticks.

Tammy:

And it was at the, it was like a fairground tour

Tammy:

concert, during the summer.

Tammy:

And the demographic was a little bit older age, And I was in the

Tammy:

second row and people behind me were telling me to sit down.

Tammy:

I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.

Tammy:

Never went to a fairgrounds show again because of that reason.

Tammy:

But I have that problem here again, wow.

Tammy:

Really?

Tammy:

So I was in the 100 level.

Tammy:

Everyone below me was standing up except for the people directly, in front of

Tammy:

me, which I suspect were, I like the eighties Depeche mode cuz they sat

Tammy:

like this through the whole thing.

Tammy:

And then when they heard, when

Kimberly:

they gonna play those songs, I like, right?

Tammy:

And then when they heard just can't get enough at the end, then

Tammy:

they stood up and they were happy.

Tammy:

But it took until the very end, the encore for them to stand up.

Tammy:

And I'm like, ah, 80 people don't bother.

Tammy:

Everybody to the left of me, I could see were standing up for

Tammy:

the most part, in the same level.

Tammy:

So that, so somebody behind me tapped me on the shoulder and

Tammy:

said, do you mind sitting down?

Tammy:

And I was just, oh, wow.

Tammy:

And I was like, and.

Tammy:

I, and I was like, you know what, n I can't guarantee that I'm

Tammy:

gonna sit down through the show.

Tammy:

Sorry.

Tammy:

I love that.

Tammy:

I love that.

Tammy:

You knows really nice about it.

Tammy:

which the people at Sticks and Heart were like, sit down,

Tammy:

yelling at you, yelling at me.

Tammy:

throwing rotten food nice about it, but I'm just like, I'm sorry, I, I'll

Tammy:

sit down here and, but I'm not gonna.

Tammy:

and I said it very nicely, smile.

Tammy:

Why are you going to a concert if you are expecting people to sit down?

Tammy:

I just don't understand it.

Tammy:

I don't, especially in that style was the asshole standing up.

Tammy:

like whatever.

Kimberly:

And we have talked about this in one of our previous episodes.

Kimberly:

If you wanna go check that out from season one, because my whole point

Kimberly:

is, How are you listening to this this music and not moving anything?

Kimberly:

Like I don't get it.

Tammy:

No.

Tammy:

And why are you there?

Tammy:

Why are you here?

Tammy:

Stay home.

Tammy:

Probably got the damn virus from you.

Tammy:

the non-moving

Kimberly:

person.

Tammy:

It ruins it for the

Kimberly:

rest of us.

Kimberly:

And having said that,

Tammy:

maybe song.

Tammy:

Come on,

Kimberly:

Ryan.

Kimberly:

I was gonna say, having said that, maybe concert etiquette has really changed

Kimberly:

up where people just, feel shy or embarrassed about doing that or something.

Kimberly:

I don't know.

Tammy:

That's one thing.

Tammy:

Don't ask me to sit down.

Tammy:

Right.

Kimberly:

I'm standing.

Tammy:

Do what you want.

Tammy:

Don't ask me to change my behavior when you can see how into the concert

Tammy:

and everyone around me is standing up.

Tammy:

Fuck you.

Tammy:

I'm sorry, but you can stand

Kimberly:

up

Tammy:

too.

Tammy:

You can stand up too.

Tammy:

Like it's okay.

Tammy:

It's okay.

Tammy:

You're not into it.

Tammy:

That's your problem.

Tammy:

That's not my problem.

Tammy:

If you came to see eighties Depeche mode, A friend drug.

Tammy:

You here, I'm, that's not my problem.

Tammy:

Don't influence my behavior when I That's so interesting.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

it's not the theater folks, right?

Kimberly:

We don't stand up in theater like that.

Kimberly:

But at a rock concert, especially with that type of music, I you

Kimberly:

see the performers dancing.

Kimberly:

I saw clips, and he was moving.

Tammy:

Yeah, I was not alone.

Tammy:

I, you're not alone.

Tammy:

You gotta be kidding me.

Tammy:

So I did see, somebody had posted a few photos and videos and stuff from, I think

Tammy:

they were in the 200 level and they made a comment, everyone around me sucked.

Tammy:

like they were, yeah.

Tammy:

They weren't appreciating it or standing up or whatever.

Tammy:

And I'm just like, oh god, it's the worst.

Tammy:

And you can't predict that.

Tammy:

especially when you're scrambling to get tickets for something

Tammy:

like this, I don't know.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

What is concert etiquette?

Kimberly:

What is con?

Kimberly:

And if and if you're watching, please put it into the comments section.

Kimberly:

I thought it was okay to move and, show your appreciation.

Kimberly:

And that's what we call feedback, and the performers actually like that.

Kimberly:

Oh my

Tammy:

God.

Tammy:

Unbelievable.

Tammy:

so yeah, so I guess my final impressions of the show, are really

Tammy:

that, and they sa they sounded amazing.

Tammy:

Dave Gahan had more energy than I've seen in years.

Tammy:

I know he was struggling.

Tammy:

Through the last concert, he, last couple, tours, he had some illnesses

Tammy:

and it looked, he just looked really tired and drained and I heard he, he

Tammy:

had said in some interviews, doesn't know if he is, can do this again.

Tammy:

He is getting older and that kind of thing.

Tammy:

He's, I think he's 60 now and, he looked fantastic.

Tammy:

He was, Fire.

Tammy:

He was dancing around, he was into it.

Tammy:

He was excited.

Tammy:

it was amazing.

Tammy:

So he was better than ever.

Tammy:

Sounded amazing.

Tammy:

just awesome.

Tammy:

and obviously the band, and Martin Gore, Martin Gore is such a gigantic

Tammy:

talent of course, he, Martin Gore got out and sang, he always sings

Tammy:

a couple of songs during each.

Tammy:

Martin sounded better than I've ever heard him.

Tammy:

Ever.

Tammy:

Like his voice, I'm like, whoa.

Tammy:

Amazing.

Tammy:

What was going on?

Tammy:

not that it wasn't good before, but there was just something extra.

Tammy:

They did a nice tribute to Fletch, not.

Tammy:

Really, they didn't announce it or anything.

Tammy:

they played Fletcher's, say, favorite song called, A World, world

Tammy:

In My Eyes, from Violator, which is one of my favorite songs too.

Tammy:

of their, I have a lot of favorite songs.

Tammy:

That's a great song too.

Tammy:

And they flashed photos of him in the background.

Tammy:

They just did this like kind of morphine, images of him younger and.

Tammy:

It was, just beautiful and moving and everybody, it's without saying

Tammy:

it, everybody was there to I think push the band on, keep going.

Tammy:

we're so happy you're here.

Tammy:

Just keep going.

Tammy:

I, that's just what it felt like.

Tammy:

It just felt so celebratory.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Unbelievable.

Tammy:

I'm okay.

Tammy:

And they have since added shows at the end of the year, they have added another

Tammy:

leg, in December for US and North America.

Tammy:

I haven't gotten tickets yet, but I'm, I've a little sick rec's rec.

Tammy:

I'm totally gonna get to the, I can't wait.

Tammy:

I can't wait to see him.

Kimberly:

Yeah, that's cool.

Kimberly:

Cause I've been, reading up on it and reading reviews and I know that this

Kimberly:

was the first leg of their tour and then the second leg, they're off to Europe,

Kimberly:

like maybe yes, this week or something.

Kimberly:

And then they come back and, I read a really great review from, A journalist, a

Kimberly:

reviewer out of la they were played down there and they said the show was amazing.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

They went to LA after San Jose.

Tammy:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Really, really, really positive reviews of the

Kimberly:

concert and their performance.

Kimberly:

And, Tammy was hitting me up.

Kimberly:

She's I'm here.

Kimberly:

I'm like, how's it go?

Kimberly:

She's they sound great.

Kimberly:

And I was like, okay, now enjoy the show.

Kimberly:

So, and wanted you to enjoy the show without me texting every five minutes.

Tammy:

I filmed a few things.

Tammy:

Amazing.

Tammy:

But I just, and did, and snapped a few photos and stuff, but I really just wanted

Tammy:

to enjoy the concert as much as I could.

Tammy:

cuz it was so fabulous.

Tammy:

So I heard in Amazing, it was, there is a part where Martin Gore and Dave

Tammy:

Gahan come down and sing together.

Tammy:

I think even just a very like acoustic version of, I think it was soul with me.

Tammy:

Um, but I heard in.

Tammy:

I think it was La Dave Gohan said, everybody put down your damn phones and

Tammy:

watched the show to when they did that.

Tammy:

Cause it's such a nice moment between the two of them singing to each other,

Tammy:

which doesn't happen very often.

Tammy:

And then they hug at the end, which is for all of us who know Depeche Mode.

Tammy:

Dave and Martin have had this kind of contentious relationship for many years.

Tammy:

And to see them coming together now, Fletch is no longer there

Tammy:

to mediate or bridge that they have to work with each other now.

Tammy:

And to see them embracing each other and really in sync with each other was

Tammy:

just made everybody, it made me happy.

Tammy:

It made everybody so happy.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

I thought that was such a beautiful moment.

Kimberly:

they, first of all, their vocal performance was really, they brought their

Kimberly:

A game, obviously they came out swinging.

Tammy:

They're on their A game.

Tammy:

They really are fan.

Tammy:

Do what you have to do to go, because this is an A level show.

Tammy:

It's amazing.

Kimberly:

Killed it.

Kimberly:

and like I said, I love them.

Kimberly:

I, haven't been like a huge fan and followed them since

Kimberly:

my high school days, just.

Kimberly:

You know, that's just way it is sometimes

Tammy:

with your, your grow outta band grow in different phases.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

after we've been talking about it and I was checking out, some clips

Kimberly:

from the concerts and even some previous years, I just really didn't realize what

Kimberly:

strong vocal performers they really were.

Kimberly:

I just really never knew.

Kimberly:

And to hear them like that and to end with that heartfelt hug, you could

Kimberly:

tell there was just so much going on.

Kimberly:

I can only imagine the kind of courage and strength it took

Kimberly:

to do this tour without Fletch.

Kimberly:

Cause he was such an right, integral part of the group.

Kimberly:

I'm like, hats off to my boys.

Kimberly:

Yes.

Kimberly:

Your boys, they sound they really sounded amazing.

Tammy:

Absolutely.

Tammy:

And they have quite a following.

Tammy:

this is an underground, really popular band with their core fan base.

Tammy:

We're all a bit obsessive about this band.

Tammy:

It's what they, I don't know, inspire there, there's just something

Tammy:

about it, but, there's a lot.

Tammy:

There's a huge worldwide fan base, which is interesting cuz

Tammy:

they're not, like a top 40 or even just, I don't know, they're not.

Tammy:

A u2, like they're, a band that attracts all of the deep slash goth.

Tammy:

I don't consider myself goth, but certainly there a lot of

Tammy:

goth are attracted to them, and.

Tammy:

So of all of the misfits, it's the misfit people and Gen X people, the people

Tammy:

who feel like they've been, misplaced or outside the norm or, don't fit in.

Tammy:

Like all those kinds of themes all come together for these shows and it's great.

Tammy:

That's what makes it so great too, is you just look around there, you're just like,

Tammy:

yeah, these are all my outsiders people.

Tammy:

This is my.

Tammy:

Because, yeah, so there's just such a, um, and, you know, people from

Tammy:

all walks of life, but, one thing you have in common, if you love

Tammy:

Depeche Mode, you're an outsider.

Tammy:

And, um, that's what we all have in common and it's a great sense of community.

Tammy:

Well,

Kimberly:

and, and I think it's awesome that they, Played, had this tour

Kimberly:

with, new music and didn't necessarily go back to some of those old tunes

Kimberly:

because for a lot of bands, they maybe don't have the courage to do that.

Kimberly:

They're like, the fans are expecting, people are people,

Kimberly:

my God, we better play that.

Kimberly:

That's, or people will feel cheated or something.

Kimberly:

And I think it's great.

Kimberly:

It's like they're playing for their fans and they're playing for themselves.

Kimberly:

Right?

Tammy:

They are, they are a hundred percent, like they're, I don't

Tammy:

think they would put in anything that they didn't feel good about.

Tammy:

For this tour in particular, I don't know about other tours, but for this

Tammy:

tour, and I think I read something about that, like not everybody's gonna be

Tammy:

happy with the fan list or with the set list because there are some things that

Tammy:

people are probably gonna wanna hear that aren't on there, but we're just.

Tammy:

It's, it's not where we are.

Tammy:

So I respect

Kimberly:

that.

Kimberly:

Totally.

Kimberly:

I'm just so happy that you know it

Tammy:

in, I don't wanna go hear a shitty version of, one of my favorite songs cause

Tammy:

I don't feel like performing it anymore.

Tammy:

Just to please, this is great version.

Tammy:

the album version.

Kimberly:

Right.

Kimberly:

And I, and I think it's great because I think for, you know, you see the arc of

Kimberly:

some bands, they just, they get stuck playing those songs from 30 years ago,

Kimberly:

and the performers and the singers can no longer sing them the way they did.

Kimberly:

So, yeah.

Kimberly:

So it's kind of disappointing, And I was really impressed with hearing

Kimberly:

how great they sounded live because I know with some of that type of

Kimberly:

music, it sounds great in the studio, but it's really hard to, replicate

Kimberly:

in a live stadium setting like that.

Kimberly:

So I'm like, that's off to them cuz they sounded great.

Kimberly:

the music sounded great and their voices were just, Over the top.

Tammy:

There's one other, component of this band that's been really

Tammy:

important since the beginning, and that is the collaboration with, Anton

Tammy:

Corbin, who does all their imagery.

Tammy:

He's done all of their videos from the very beginning.

Tammy:

He does the backdrop of the, all of the video and imagery

Tammy:

for the show, and it's stunning.

Tammy:

And without him, he creates such.

Tammy:

What is it?

Tammy:

Such a vibe.

Tammy:

he's like the fifth member of the band because without him and that

Tammy:

imagery and how he is portraying the band, I don't think they

Tammy:

would be as popular with mm-hmm.

Tammy:

US outsiders.

Tammy:

I really don't.

Tammy:

He, there's something about how he's able to translate that and

Tammy:

they have never veered from.

Tammy:

They've smart with them the whole time.

Tammy:

Smart.

Tammy:

And if you look back on their eighties videos, never Let me Down.

Tammy:

Or Even Personal, Jesus, he did those.

Tammy:

Look at those.

Tammy:

They're stunning.

Tammy:

Yeah, they are.

Kimberly:

Even now, even you look at them now, even

Tammy:

now.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

still stunning.

Kimberly:

Ahead of the time, ahead of their time.

Tammy:

the fact that, what, 45, 40, I don't know how many years

Tammy:

we're still listening to that.

Tammy:

It's still relevant.

Tammy:

It's still, there's still amazing songs.

Tammy:

They still just blow away most other songs.

Tammy:

is just incredible.

Tammy:

Like, you can go back today and listen to those and just go and just be like moved

Kimberly:

by them.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

that's a, you know, know, the sign of some great music, some great artistry where.

Kimberly:

You can listen to their songs now and they still sound, fresh

Kimberly:

and they still pop, right?

Kimberly:

Because I'll be, you know, sometimes driving out on the road and I'll,

Kimberly:

catch one of those, eighties, eighties nineties stations and they'll, people

Kimberly:

are, people will pop out and like, Like still my song, you know, these still.

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

It still sounds great.

Kimberly:

I love that.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yeah,

Kimberly:

absolutely.

Kimberly:

I'm so excited and so happy that you had that opportunity to go there.

Kimberly:

And, before we head out, I, I did want to, talk to you just about some of those,

Kimberly:

what do they call it, post-production blues, post show blues, where it's

Kimberly:

like the endorphins have worn off.

Kimberly:

And, so

Tammy:

tell us about that.

Tammy:

That's really interesting point.

Tammy:

I wanted to pull up an article, we'll link it down below.

Tammy:

it's from a therapy site, but it's, called Post Concert

Tammy:

Depression, and it's very real.

Tammy:

And I'll just read, post concert depression is a type of depression that

Tammy:

occurs after one attends a concert.

Tammy:

Causing them to feel sad, particularly after a show that was much anticipated.

Tammy:

The excitement and energy a person feels when looking forward to a

Tammy:

concert can make them feel more motivated, hopeful, and happier.

Tammy:

Additional thrilling aspects include travel, hotel

Tammy:

accommodations, or a new outfit.

Tammy:

A person may also experience some nostalgia and surrealness when seeing

Tammy:

a band performing live for sure.

Tammy:

returning to the real world post concert can feel like a culture shock,

Tammy:

similar to returning from a vacation or a memorable, fun wedding reception

Tammy:

that goes on to, describe it more.

Tammy:

But that's, that's exactly it.

Tammy:

I didn't, I did have.

Tammy:

I never thought about it in that way, but I remember the first time I saw Depeche

Tammy:

Mode in, which was, I think in 2006, time, 2005, 2006, whenever that was.

Tammy:

And I remember, oh my God, did I go through, I had no idea it was

Tammy:

gonna be such a emotional experie.

Tammy:

Such a spiritual experience, such a outta my body experience show.

Tammy:

And I came back I can't adjust.

Tammy:

I don't wanna be back in the real world like this feels awful.

Tammy:

It felt better at the sh I wanna feel like that.

Tammy:

and so that's when I started becoming obsessed with them and seeing

Tammy:

them, you know, multiple times.

Tammy:

But, you know, fast forward to now, I didn't have that level of depress.

Tammy:

But it did hit me.

Tammy:

It hit me on Monday, like I was still on a high on Sunday, and then

Tammy:

Monday it, like, you know, going back to work and wrecked a real life.

Tammy:

That's when I really started to crash and feels like a withdrawal almost.

Tammy:

and then I couldn't like, and then I got sick On top of it

Tammy:

and I couldn't really look.

Tammy:

For a while, for that first week, I couldn't look online at people

Tammy:

going to shows because I was just so bummed that it was over.

Tammy:

I couldn't, I just couldn't look at it.

Tammy:

but I can now, but that first week I was just like, I can't

Tammy:

hear what's going on in la.

Tammy:

I can't, I can't, you know, like that anticipation of going to the show

Tammy:

and just, and how great it was and how connecting it was and then you

Tammy:

go back to, yeah, just normal life and, so it's a very real thing for.

Tammy:

Um, not every show, not every concert I go to, but those ones that you really look

Tammy:

forward to or you really love the band and it's just, I've talked on the show

Tammy:

about other concerts that I've been to.

Tammy:

I had that experience seeing the fix a few years in 2019.

Tammy:

I had just a deeply spiritual experience seeing them at the show.

Tammy:

And boy did that take a while to get over that.

Tammy:

So I wonder if anybody else experiences that or if anybody else can relate.

Tammy:

And if you can, please comment below.

Tammy:

So I know that I'm not alone.

Tammy:

I must not be alone cuz someone wrote an article about it so, well

Tammy:

there's more posted down below.

Kimberly:

So there's Tammy in that, that one jar list, right?

Kimberly:

Yes.

Kimberly:

No, but I think you're onto something.

Kimberly:

I mean it's, it's kind of similar cause I do, know, the.

Kimberly:

Theatrical type, productions as well.

Kimberly:

It's like there's so much energy goes into it and it's I'm looking forward to it.

Kimberly:

Looking forward to it.

Kimberly:

Little tension.

Kimberly:

Oh my god, it gonna work out, huh.

Kimberly:

You know, and it's, you know, the energy's running high

Tammy:

and

Kimberly:

then it's over, then it's over.

Kimberly:

And you can't go back.

Tammy:

And you don't know when it's gonna happen again.

Tammy:

Or it's at the end of it.

Tammy:

and then you were like, you have to kind of go through a bit of a grieving pro if.

Tammy:

You know, like they mentioned the, show or a wedding or an event.

Tammy:

same thing.

Tammy:

there's a loss that occurs after it.

Tammy:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

And

Tammy:

also, and I don't, I'm not looking forward to that anymore.

Tammy:

Like, yeah.

Kimberly:

And also the, you know, the coming together of the

Kimberly:

people and you have to disperse and there's a lot that goes on.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

With that.

Kimberly:

And I think it's important to, to acknowledge, be so people don't

Kimberly:

feel like, oh, it's not just me.

Kimberly:

Oh, I'm crazy.

Kimberly:

It's no, you had this.

Kimberly:

First of all, this is the first, their first tour in, what, four

Kimberly:

years or something like that?

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Mm-hmm.

Kimberly:

Five years.

Kimberly:

So that, that element after the pandemic and then with Fletches.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

passing also in the mix.

Kimberly:

So it's very emotional.

Kimberly:

It's like a recipe for a lot of emotions to be flying around.

Kimberly:

That's for sure.

Tammy:

And actually, their shows are emotional anyway.

Tammy:

Mm-hmm.

Tammy:

They're always very emotional, like very spiritual on some.

Tammy:

Cosmic level, at least in my experience, and I'm sure many others too.

Tammy:

But yeah, the depth of emotion that you feel at the show and then the.

Tammy:

Uplifting, happiness and joy and spirituality, you know,

Tammy:

just being transported somewhere during the whole thing.

Tammy:

And then you go back to the, your real life, like, wait.

Kimberly:

And then on top of that, you're sick too, right?

Tammy:

I mean, yeah.

Tammy:

You know, it's, it's no wonder you hear of bands that.

Tammy:

Have trouble coming off the road.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

And it's probably similar to that.

Tammy:

You're on this high on stage and you're getting this energy, you're

Tammy:

exchange this exchange of energy with the crowd and you, and it's real.

Tammy:

And then they come off stage and then if they're touring, they go to another

Tammy:

city and they keep repeating and then, What do you do when you have to go home?

Tammy:

In fact, James Hetfield from Metallica talked about this and

Tammy:

said that some of his addiction that he was struggling with was that

Tammy:

transition to going home after tour.

Tammy:

That he just couldn't, he couldn't adjust.

Tammy:

What do you mean I have to take out the trash bin or what do I do now?

Tammy:

And.

Tammy:

I think that's true for a lot of our, that struggle is true for a lot of people.

Tammy:

Some people don't like to tour as much and wanna be home more, I

Tammy:

think, especially as they get older.

Tammy:

But, uh, I can imagine just as a fan, totally experiencing

Tammy:

that and having to go back.

Tammy:

What if it's every other night for a year and then it's over?

Tammy:

So I think they call that post tour depression.

Tammy:

I'm sure there's an article on that stuff, right?

Tammy:

I'm sure there's a couple articles.

Tammy:

Sure.

Tammy:

It's real.

Tammy:

I'm sure it's very.

Kimberly:

True.

Kimberly:

and for any, performers that wanna come on our show and talk about it, give us

Kimberly:

their firsthand experience with that.

Kimberly:

We welcome you, we, we would love to know more about it because, we as

Kimberly:

fans and as people that participate, we have our own range of feelings.

Kimberly:

But yeah, you, I can imagine what that would be like to, you know, you've been

Kimberly:

out on the road for a year and all of a sudden that it just stops and that whole.

Kimberly:

Community that you built is now dispersed.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

That whole community and then returning to, yeah, normal life's boring.

Kimberly:

Where it's I gotta take out the garbage and cook tonight.

Kimberly:

Wait, what?

Kimberly:

where's my tour?

Kimberly:

Or where's my stage?

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Where's shouting my name and where what happened to that?

Kimberly:

It's like, sure, here's the garbage and you know where it goes, dear.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Right, right.

Kimberly:

I'm, and I'm your number one fan, so I'm saying that with love.

Kimberly:

Right,

Tammy:

right.

Tammy:

Get to work, get your kid together and pitch in around the house.

Tammy:

You've been gone for a year.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

But that's, you know, not everyone can make those transitions.

Kimberly:

Some people love to be back at home and they love that.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

Seems like, you know, some type of balance is probably a good idea.

Tammy:

Probably,

Kimberly:

probably.

Kimberly:

Awesome.

Kimberly:

Well, I'm so glad you had a chance to make it to that concert.

Kimberly:

I'm sorry you got sick, but I'm so glad you're back at it.

Kimberly:

I was like, where's my girl, Tammy?

Tammy:

I know this would've gotten sooner had I not, been down with the

Tammy:

plague or whatever I have, but, but we wanted to get this out and just really.

Tammy:

Give a shout out to Depeche Mode and all the Depeche Mode fans.

Tammy:

I see you,

Kimberly:

we, we see you and hear you

Tammy:

like, yes, uh, uh, we're here with you and, please, please comment and

Tammy:

share and for other Depeche Mode fans as well, and would love to hear from you.

Kimberly:

Absolutely.

Kimberly:

And we hope that we'll have, Tammy back on specifically talking.

Kimberly:

The second, at least the second, concert you get a chance to

Kimberly:

go to, if not more, right?

Tammy:

Yeah, I do.

Tammy:

I have some con some more concerts, coming up, so there'll be more reports.

Tammy:

It'll be a good concert year.

Tammy:

Hopefully I won't get sick at the others.

Tammy:

Hopefully this is just the, maybe, hopefully I'm getting

Tammy:

this outta my system now and I'll be, my immunity will be good to.

Tammy:

Absolutely awesome.

Tammy:

But you know, it's kind of a real issue now with, we're still facing covid and

Tammy:

that kind of thing and it is a risk.

Tammy:

It's still a risk to go to these shows.

Tammy:

And this one was indoors and I knew it was a risk, it was just a

Tammy:

risk I was willing to take because I just had to see Depeche mode.

Kimberly:

and that's, that's completely understand.

Kimberly:

Yeah.

Kimberly:

Got it.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

I would rethink other indoor shows.

Tammy:

me personally, now I'm like, And the next shows I have coming up are all outdoors.

Tammy:

Cool.

Kimberly:

Great.

Kimberly:

I'll be in the breeze with everybody else.

Kimberly:

Yeah, right.

Kimberly:

But it's, it's something to think about.

Kimberly:

It's like, and we've talked about this, before it's real, you know,

Kimberly:

these, our favorite groups that we came up with are getting older.

Kimberly:

They're not gonna be on tour forever.

Kimberly:

we hope they go on as long as they can, but that's reality.

Kimberly:

So it's like if you're a super fan, you wanna catch 'em when you can.

Kimberly:

That makes total sense, right?

Tammy:

Yeah.

Tammy:

Yep.

Tammy:

Had to do it.

Kimberly:

Awesome.

Kimberly:

Well, that is our, uh, on the ground reporting of that, concert coverage.

Kimberly:

And we'll have some special footage also related to that concert.

Kimberly:

And, like we said, let us know how you're handling all this, business with touring.

Kimberly:

Have you been out there?

Kimberly:

What shows have you seen?

Kimberly:

Did you get sick too?

Kimberly:

we able to and what worked for you as far as your recovery,

Kimberly:

ginger tea, and chicken soup.

Kimberly:

Now we'd love to, hear, what other people's experiences are and we'll

Kimberly:

be back for a full episode of all the goings on, cause there's

Kimberly:

plenty happening right now, too.

Tammy:

Awesome.

Tammy:

Thanks everyone.

Tammy:

Thanks for

Kimberly:

watching.

Kimberly:

Thanks.

Kimberly:

Thanks for watching.

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About the Podcast

Women of Rock
Join hosts Tammy Holzer and Kimberly Gunn for conversations about their favorite bands and artists, live concerts, what's happening in the world of music, and much more!
The Women of Rock is a music podcast all about rock music and the goings on in the world of rock hosted by Kimberly Gunn (Zoomcatchers) and Tammy Holzer (LightwaveLive YouTube Channel.

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Kimberly Gunn

Zoomcatchers is a remote production, virtual event and podcasting company!

We host podcasts across a variety of areas including science, music, and arts and culture.

The Women of Rock is hosted by Zoomcatchers Kimberly Gunn and LightwaveLive's Tammy Holzer. WOR is a podcast all about the goings on in the world of rock!